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Election 2016: Ruby Bersamin’s candidacy in trouble?

Ruby Bersamin

Ruby Bersamin

The fight for Governorship in Abra just got a twist with an allege filing of disqualification case against Ruby Bersamin’s cadidacy on the basis that she didn’t properly renounced her US Citizenship.

Being a US Citizen or even with dual citizenship for that matter cannot run for an elective position in the Philippines, not even as Barangay Captain. Here’s a sample Supreme Court decision.

If indeed this is true, our assumption earlier that Chari Bersamin may became a substitute candidate will become a reality.

Quoting a post (as is) from one of our users below revealed some discrepancies of Ms. Bersamin’s filing of her COC.

taga masid taga abra

adda naipila nga disqualification case ni ruby bersamin diay comelec manila. they are reaching/talking to the one who file the disqualification case. no madisqualifify the ruby bersamin may be this is the time charie bersamin will substitute ruby bersamin for governor. ta charie can not substitute marco for congressman or land somera for vice governor because they are not in the same party. ruby bersamin only renounce her US CITIZENSHIP oct 14, 2015 when she filed her candidacy subscribed by a notary public atty damasen. saan nga nag oath of allegiance to the republic of the phil. to be a natural born filipino. saan nga napan nagrenounce ti US citizenship na diay american embassy based on what ruby bersamin submitted/ attached documents when she filed her certificate of candidacy.

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  1. Nalpas kan if grace poe was dq why not you. Chary b for governor go madam i hate koliglig fir he has done to me but il vote you n il campaign fir u in my bailwick with 600 voters eventhough i am not allowed to directly participate in campaigning .

    Posted by eric shawn | December 3, 2015, 6:06 am
  2. Palagay ko napag usapan nina justice Lucas at si boss ang pag kandidato ni ma’am Ruby bago nag file ng COC. And DQ ng COMELEC ay wala raw bisa, ang final say ay mula Supreme Court. Kung mangyari man ng Dq, okey lang siguro sa Abra kung si Chary ang substitute kasi ang mangyari si boss Takit din ang adviser. Peace, development, and progress continue to prevail ( English yan ES) . Masaya tayong dalawa Eric dito, parehong na ang ating kandidato.

    Posted by Kapitan | December 3, 2015, 7:55 am
    • NOT SO FAST GUYS..RUBY IS A NATURAL BORN FILIPINO CITIZEN …SHE HAS ALL THE ULTIMATE RIGHT BEING A FILIPINO ENJOYED…IT WAS ALL POLITICS..
      I will quit my job with a real SG32 SALARY GRADE IF I AM WRONG

      Posted by UNKNOWN RELATIVES | December 3, 2015, 9:26 am
      • she is a natural born awan question na deta. but she lost her filipino citizenship when she took oath as a US citizen. Did she renounce her us citrizenship in a matter as prescribed my the law of America? deta ti question na. of course every filipino has the right ONLY if you are really a pinoy. no haan ket awan karbengam nga ag politiko.

        Posted by genuine pinoy | December 3, 2015, 11:26 am
        • RUBY IS A DUAL CITIZEN..IF SHE IS IN THE STATES SHE IS AN AMERICAN…IF SHE IS IN PHILIPPINES SHE IS PINOY ..SHE IS PAYING US AND PHILIPPINE TAXES..WITH THIS KIND OF CITIZENSHIP SHE IS ALLOWED HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES TO BE A CANDIDATE FROM VICE PRESIDENT TO BARANGAY COUNCIL WOMAN..

          Posted by UNKNOWN RELATIVES | December 3, 2015, 6:01 pm
      • I agree

        Posted by Ringnoster | December 3, 2015, 4:23 pm
        • A dual citizen is not allowed by law to run even a Barangay Counselor.In short, Green Holders are forbidden to run for any Philippine elective post. Basa basa muna pag may time para sa munting kaalaman.

          Posted by Boyong Bugayong Mañalac | December 23, 2015, 11:54 am
      • Kita naman she is a natursl born filipino height at ilong pinoy na. We are not lawyer here and dnt pretend to be one im commenting on the issue based from the cases that were resolved by the comelec. A mayor from lanao town was disqualified by the comelec bec he used his americsn passport in travelling oversees eventhough he renounce his american citizenship.so with grace poe honest to goodness daw pgfill up nya but the truth is sinungsling sya. So msm chari prepare to substitute ur ambitious tita but iam yurs but i doubt if you can win bec almost brgy captains of abra have been committed to joy due to her generosity.

        Posted by eric shawn | December 3, 2015, 8:07 pm
  3. In google ko man how to renounce your amercan citizenship ket daytoy met rimmuar:

    Renunciation of U.S. Nationality

    A. THE IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY ACT

    Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(5)) is the section of law governing the right of a United States citizen to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the loss of nationality by voluntarily

    “(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state , in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State” (emphasis added).

    B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

    A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

    appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
    in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
    sign an oath of renunciation
    Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of Section 349(a)(5), U.S. citizens cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds, as discussed below.

    C. REQUIREMENT – RENOUNCE ALL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES

    a person seeking to renounce U.S. citizenship must renounce all the rights and privileges associated with such citizenships. In the case of Colon v. U.S. Department of State , 2 F.Supp.2d 43 (1998),the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia rejected Colon’s petition for a writ of mandamus directing the Secretary of State to approve a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the case because he wanted to retain the right to live in the United States while claiming he was not a U.S. citizen.

    D. DUAL NATIONALITY / STATELESSNESS

    Persons intending to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware that, unless they already possess a foreign nationality, they may be rendered stateless and, thus, lack the protection of any government. They may also have difficulty traveling as they may not be entitled to a passport from any country. Even if not stateless, former U.S. citizens would still be required to obtain a visa to travel to the United States, or show that they are eligible for admission pursuant to the terms of the Visa Waiver Pilot Program (VWPP). Renunciation of U.S. citizenship may not prevent a foreign country from deporting that individual to the United States in some non-citizen status.

    E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION

    Persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware of the fact that renunciation of U.S. citizenship may have no effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship does not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial obligations previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad.

    F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN/INCOMPETENTS

    Citizenship is a status that is personal to the U.S. citizen. Therefore parents may not renounce the citizenship of their minor children. Similarly, parents/legal guardians may not renounce the citizenship of individuals who are mentally incompetent. Minors seeking to renounce their U.S. citizenship must demonstrate to a consular officer that they are acting voluntarily and that they fully understand the implications/consequences attendant to the renunciation of U.S. citizenship.

    G. IRREVOCABILITY OF RENUNCIATION

    Finally, those contemplating a renunciation of U.S. citizenship should understand that the act is irrevocable, except as provided in section 351 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1483), and cannot be canceled or set aside absent successful administrative or judicial appeal. (Section 351(b) of the INA provides that an applicant who renounced his or her U.S. citizenship before the age of eighteen can have that citizenship reinstated if he or she makes that desire known to the Department of State within six months after attaining the age of eighteen. See also Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, section 50.20).

    Renunciation is the most unequivocal way in which a person can manifest an intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Please consider the effects of renouncing U.S. citizenship, described above, before taking this serious and irrevocable action. If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please contact:

    Posted by foxylady | December 3, 2015, 11:20 am
    • RENUNCIATION OF CITIZENSHIP ONLY APPLY WHEN YOU ARE A PHILIPPINE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ..DUAL CITIZENSHIP THAT ARE FILIPINO NATURAL BORN AND GET THEIR OTHER CITIZENSHIP ABROAD MAY BE A CANDIDATE FROM VICE PRESIDENT TO BARANGAY COUNCIL WOMAN ACCORDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION

      Posted by ABRAKATABRA | December 3, 2015, 8:02 pm
  4. adu ti agragsak no usto man data awan met la pangabak na, ambisyosa gamin unay,,agwithdraw kan ta palubusan ni maam charie ta isu ti aggobernador

    Posted by ambis | December 3, 2015, 1:25 pm
  5. Ruby Bersamin is a very smart lady. She knows what she is dojng and I am sure she followed all the requirements before she even filed for her candidacy. Panggulo da la dagita ifile da nga disqualification case.
    Dagitay mannanakaw ti asawa, kuarta ken mamatay ti dapat madisqualify.

    Posted by Ringnoster | December 3, 2015, 4:54 pm
  6. according to the survey in abra, ruby has no chance to win . no siak ti takit, ipadisqualify na ni baket nan ta ni ma’am chari to mapanen. ta no ipapilit ni ruby awan pangabak na.

    Posted by Dugol | December 3, 2015, 5:05 pm
  7. Nia ket dagitoyen aya uray sinnu ti ipalaban yo ken Joy Valera-Bernos awan lamuten da kaniana…..ambisyosa dagitoy agikit… addan aya napatunayan dan… bullshit awan lang ammok…OMG Joy t mangabak baga kon!

    Posted by TANGO | December 3, 2015, 5:08 pm
  8. Ti agbilang t piyek nga dipay napissaan something wrong -lastog/ampaw. Nauma ti taga Abran ti pin natay, na talna a biag ti birbirukenda.

    Posted by CONTRALASTOG | December 3, 2015, 6:44 pm
    • Kopitan i agree with you im for chari b but i doubt if she can win if ever she will be a substitute for rubi. Engrata kc mga bersamins despite of what we had done for the past ekection he did nit recognized it instead he makes my life miserable and my career was stagnant but because of my ability i was able to rebuild my reputation that koliglig destroyed. So im enjoying now the perks n priviledge of my desk as sg 32. Kopitan nxt year our salary will increase again sarap maging executive

      Posted by eric shawn | December 3, 2015, 7:18 pm
    • SIGORADO KAYO TA PALPALAWAPAWEN YO NGA ISUDA TI PUMATAY TAO KET NI KANO KOLIGLIG SANTO NGA KABALYO..UMAY KAYMAN LA TOY PAGPAGATPAT TAYUM TA KANYUBONGEK LA TA NGIWNGIW YON MAKA ULAW DAGITOY ERECTION KEN KAPITAN

      Posted by AGBIRBIROK TI NGESNGESEK | December 4, 2015, 1:01 am
  9. Anya kayo ketdi aya ka probinsyaak. Ruby man weno Charito ti lumaban keni Joy, ni Joy to latta iti mangabak.Intayo kadi akseptaren iti kinag payso nan. Wen agpayso nga nalaing idi ni Apo Chito Bersamin. Ngem haan da met nga naytuloy iti kinaling na. Nu di ket inda laeng pinardi iti apilyedo nga bersamin nga inalalwadan ni apo chito. Sika man met agpatakder ka iti ospital nga impanpanam namam nga napintas, ka maudyanan na naka alalas,abot abot kada haan nga kumpleto. anya met ngata aya iti nakita ni takit keni baket na nga isu iti impalaban na keni Joy. Di na laeng met nadamag iti bagi nan, anya ngata iti gatad weno nasayaat nga nay pakpakita ni baket ko iti tatao iti probinsya iti abra?ada kadi weno awan?ada kadi iti personalidad ni baket ko iti nalaka nga maasikgan weno makasarita, aglalo kadagiti agkasapulan? ada kadi djay gandat na nga mangpasayaat iti kabiabiag ti taga abra? dagita ah kuma iti ina dinamag iti bagi na sakbay na impalaban ni baket na. apay nga adado iti mangayat keni Joy kaysa keni Ruby? simple laeng,gapu ta marikna iti taga abra nu kasatno iti panagayat ni Joy iti probinsya ti abra. Gapwen ta makita da keni Joy iti namnama nga sumayaat iti panag biag da. Gapwen ta JOY ti kayat da nga marikna iti puspuso da.JOY for Governor.

    Posted by kulas ma-moyon | December 4, 2015, 11:06 pm
  10. MADI NGA GOMASTO KAN NI TAKIT NO SAAN NGA NI BAKET NA KANO TI LOMABAN NGA PAGKA GOBERNADOR TA KAANAKAN NA LAENG KANO MET NI CHARI DI NA KAYAT KAN GOMASTO PUWES NO KASTOY NGARUD TI KAPANONOTAN DA ISU TI PAKAPATUGAN TI BANGA TI BERSAMINEN…KEN URAY PAY SOMANGO NI CHARI NO KUARTA TI NAGNA NARIGAT DA ABAKEN NI JOY VALERA BERNOS SEN NO TATTA KOMA TI PANAGBOBOTOSEN…90% TI SWS-ABRA YOUTH SURVEY IN 22 OUT OF 24 MUNICIPALITIES IS FOR JOY NO NI MAMASANG RUBI KOMA TI KALABAN NA .SURVEY CONDUCTED DECEMBER- 01 TO 05 -2015 DIAK AMMO NO ANYA NGA MAGIC WENNO MATHEMATICS TI ARAMIDEN DAGITOY BERSAMIN ITAN…TAYUM KEN LAGAYAN TI SAAN NGA NAYRAMAN KADAYTOY A SURVEY SIGON TAY INDA IN TEXT MARGINAL ERROR OF 2%

    Posted by ABRA YOUTH TEXT HUSHTAG SOCIETY | December 5, 2015, 2:01 am
  11. ‘Ti tao nga dillaw nga dillaw, managapal’ – ullaw. Kas ken uleg nga nagkuna ‘ Hoy bannias, nagateddag ta ipos mo’ saan na nga ammo nga diay la ulona ti saan nga ipos. Paskuan, isardengen ti aglaslastog ket tuladen ni apo koliglig nga napakumbaba, mannakatulong , ken ragsaken na ti Kapia. Kappia adda koma kada tayo nga awan LASTOGNA.

    Posted by CONTRALASTOG | December 5, 2015, 8:27 am
    • PATIENEN ODDANG diak mamati deta ibagbagamon contralastog SIAK TI MAYSA NGA NANGTED TI KUARTA KENNI BOSS MO A KOLIGLIG IDI DAMO NA NGA AGAWID NGA UMAY AGKANDIDATO SIAM A TAWENEN NAGLABAS BAYADANG KANTO AGINGGA ITA SWAPANG DETOY IBID BIDAM CONTRALASTOG NO NALPADAN NA KAN IDTAMON KASTA TI OGALI DI NA AMMO NGA TALYAWEN DAGITAY IMMOTANGAN NA ta agingga ita dipay nakabayad ibagam kanyana bossing bayadam kan tay inutang mo diay CARRITOS CALIFORNIA KUNAM MAN LAENG KANYANA NGARUD O.K

      Posted by FORGET ME NOT | December 5, 2015, 9:40 am
  12. Kastoy man ti maibagak FORGET ME NOT, no nakalipat nga agpayso ni bossing bay-amon ta kasla rigalomon ditoy Abra. Ammom met ti rigatmi ditoy ken ammok nga nasaysayaat nga adayo ti biag mo dita USA. Ti ragsakem no makitam ti adu nga simmaayatan ti Abra nangruna ti kalsada, linak ken talna. Ket no ag bakasyon ka sigurado nga ipasiarnaka ni bossing ket maragsakan ka nga makakita ti dakkel nga nagbaliwan ti Abra nga TIMMULONGAM GAPUT TALEK MO KEN BOSSING KEN AYAT MO TI PROVINCIA. Ammo mi nga saan mo nga ipanglaw dayta tulongmo ken adda agur-uray nga gungunam nga saan nga magatadan ti Kuarta. NARAGSAK NGA PASKUA APO!

    Posted by CONTRALASTOG | December 5, 2015, 10:18 am
    • CONTRALASTOG MAYTURED MO NGA IPADAWAT DAYTA 10 MILLION PESOS.NGA NAGBANNOGAM.TI BIAG AMERICA KET LEGAL AGAPO TI BUKOD MO A NAGBANOGAN..SAAN NGA TI AMOYO DITA AYANTAYO NGA PIDPIDOTEN MI TI KUARTA DITOY LAKA LAKA ENYO NGAMIN TI PANAGBIAG DITA AYAN TAYO

      Posted by FORGET ME NOT | December 5, 2015, 12:50 pm
      • Iam a living witness no kasatno engrata ni koliglig. We helped him where he is now only to dumped us for reason that was not validated. Madi mi kayat ni joy pero iso lattan ragsak kon no maabak ita ni kologlig i will be the first one nga mngkitos kanya na

        Posted by Billit pugo | December 5, 2015, 2:41 pm
        • AY MANDIAK LA YAKAT NGA TAGA PENARUBIA TI KASLAKALAKAINGAN TA CAPITOLYO NO DITA ABRA PROBINSIYAL HOSPITAL BONGNGANGERA PAYEN IDDAN TO KET PAGKA GOBERNADOREN AMA DIPAY KANAYON TI PANAGDALOS NI ERIC SHAWN NEN NGA NAKASAPSAPA IDINTO NGA SALA AGPARANG NO PINAG SO SWELDO

          Posted by Korarapnit | December 5, 2015, 8:21 pm
        • Excuse me korarapnit ive never worked with the bersamins i have my own desk in the NGA that koliglig was able to to downplay of my career because of unsubstantiated and bulong bulong n kagat tainga of the late boy aquino n kopitan who were insecure for being close to koliglig. Now i was able to rebuild myself n its my turn to campaign against koligli in my bailwick discreetly bec i am not allowed to do so by virtue of the civil service rule.

          Posted by eric shawn | December 6, 2015, 2:26 am

      • BOYA-EN TAY NGARUD MANEN TAY MANOK NGA NANGITAYAB TAY KUARTA TOY UMILI NGA ABRA…TINOLA MANEN KAKABSAT….INEB BATAN NI MAYORA GLENDA NGA MANOK NI GOVERNOR BERSAMIN.. FIGHT 33…
        MILLION MILLION MANEN TI PARADA PAPANAN NA NGA DIDA AMIN MAYSALDA TOY ABRAN…KAKA ASI TAY PAY NGA AGBAYBAYAD TI BUWIS NGA MANGBAYBAYAD KADAGITOY….UMAY TI PINAGBOBOTOSAN DAGITOY KADI SUGADOR LATTA TI KAYAT TAY NGA AGBALIN NGA GOVERNADOR KEN MAYOR MI TOY TAYUM ..AGPANONOOTH TAY KADI MAN MET KAKAILIAN….

        Posted by PAGPAGATPAT EXPRESS | December 5, 2015, 11:54 pm
        • FIGHT 34 PALA MGA KASABONG..HEHEHE.MAYORA GLENDA KANAYUN NGA NAKAPAYAPAY TOY AKLO MI DITOY PAGPAGATPAT HAK HAK HAK

          Posted by PAGPAGATPAT EXPRESS | December 6, 2015, 12:05 am

  13. MARAMING SALAMAT PO PANGINOON NA ANG AMING PINAGDADASAL AY IYONG PINAKINGGAN..MAGHANDA KAYO NGAYUN MGA MAGNANAKAW NANG KABAN NANG BAYAN….MAGSABONG NANG MAGSABONG NA KAYO NGAYUN MAYORA GLENDA AT GOVERNADOR TAQUIO DAHIL ORAS NA SI DUTERTE ANG MAGING PRESIDENTE KAYO NAMAN ANG IKUKULONG NA PARANG MANOK SA BILIBID KAYA IHANDA YO NA RIN ANG MGA TUMBONG NINYO HAK HAK HAK

    Posted by PAGPAGATPAT EXPRESS | December 6, 2015, 6:23 pm
  14. Read the law… Dual Citizenship is not the same as Dual Allegiance. What the 1987 Constitution proscribes is Dual Allegiance… You have the right to express your own opinions but be sure to think first before you react…

    Posted by The TRUTH | December 7, 2015, 12:00 am
  15. Eric Shawn I know the law. What you know is low not law… You have to enroll at AVC College of Law in order for you to understand what you are saying. Ang baba-baba ng IQ mo…

    Posted by The TRUTH | December 7, 2015, 6:10 pm
    • AVC no way only atty carino passed the bar who graduated at that school look at the performance of its alumni as defense lawyer for indigents for you to judge what school is AVC then u want me to send to that law school where my IQ is above average. The truth you must be dull normal if you insist that AVC is suited with my IQ.

      Posted by eric shawn | December 8, 2015, 8:07 am
      • No kastoy nga narigat nga maawatan ti english ti agkunkuna nga SG32 ken executive ti probinsiya/pagilian tayo, ay ket pakakitaan nga awan ti pagsayaatan nga maaramidanda para ti ilulung-aw ti umili. In other words, we will reap the fruit of what we sow. No “killo kilo” ti a panagingles ti trabahador, killo killo met laeng a ti trabahona, daytoy ket obserbar ko laeng apo.

        Posted by Make my day | December 17, 2015, 9:03 am
  16. No adda burlesque queen, adda met lastog queen. Dayta SG32 ket sigurado nga 3200 pesos monthly salary ta matantya met ta English na. Daytoy lastog queen ket kayyariganna tay dawa ti pagay nga nangatngato ngem tay nabagas nga dawa -ampaw. Husto tay pagsasao ‘ ti tao nga mangidaydayaw ti bagina maag/idiot nga agdadata’.

    Posted by CONTRALASTOG | December 26, 2015, 8:21 am
  17. Fidgety – nervous and unable to relax; a constant fretful stamping of hooves; a restless person. Fretful /tende – in state of physical or nervous tension. adda ammok nga tao nga adda sakit nga fidgety. ti advice ko ti daytoy nga tao ket uminom nga kanayon nga in the state ti arak ta malipatan na diay pangnervous na.

    Posted by taga masid taga abra | January 3, 2016, 5:32 pm
  18. nagpapatang da takit ken jendricks luna, cesy luna para congressman diay kapitolyo sigurado inlako ni takit ni marco bautista para congressman, ryan luna para vice governor inlako na pay ni lando somera para vice governor. kasta met dagita bersamin nga ti laeng bagbagi na mailusot da okayen. ania ngarud tatta marco ken lando inlako na kayo metten ni takit.

    Posted by taga masid taga abra | January 5, 2016, 10:28 pm
  19. Higit na kilala ko ang pagkatao ni boss – hinding hindi gagawin yon, malamang sa kaso ni Ryan ang pinag-usapn dahil sa power ni Justice. Kapalit siguro sa tao nila sa Bangued para mayor at sa Lagayan para governor. Sa bagay hindi ako pabor Kay Bautista lalo yan Lando na sari lang ang mahalaga Kay Dr Bringas ako.

    Posted by KAPITAN | January 6, 2016, 12:25 pm
    • Kopitan in politics nothing impossible for you to survive the election i onow more tskit thsn you bec i have a first hand information about his dealings. Although i am a person who dbt believe information that was not vslidated but rumors about conspiracy and compromise abd secret alliance is known characteristic of tskit snd it was proven in 2007 2010 n 2013 election. I can describe him in one word ask me if you want to know the word?

      Posted by eric shawn | January 12, 2016, 9:27 am

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