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New APH’s water supply positive of E-Coli

Bangued, Abra. The yet-to-be opened newly constructed Abra Provincial Hospital (APH) took another turn when the water supply was tested positive of E-Coli strain. This despite the claim of the Provincial Government that, the water supply system (which takes water from the Abra River) is a state-of-the-art.

E-coli is highly contagious and could be deadly to children. Symptoms include Abdominal pain, Diarrhea, Nausea, Vomiting, Fever and fatigue.

According to sources who spoke on conditions on anonymity, the provincial government has been working frantically to open the hospital in April, just before the 2013 local elections. But Health authorities delivered the bad news just this week. It is unclear when the hospital open.

Meanwhile, some pictures inside the hospital was posted on one of the FaceBook group (check out Abra Elections 2013), obviously in response to abrenian.com’s article. The pictures, which we don’t have permission to post , shows some partial items still in plastic wraps somehow trying to justify Governor Bersamin’s claim that he only wanted new equipment in the hospital.

Abrenians here and abroad has criticized the new hospital due to poor construction, despite being built for more that P200M. The damage that was cause by rains has yet to be fixed. (abrenian.com)

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134 thoughts on “New APH’s water supply positive of E-Coli

  1. If the editor of this article is anonymous, then what’s the point in believing it?

    Posted by anonymous | March 6, 2013, 8:55 pm
  2. There is a dispute on whether the damaged portion has been fixed or not – as a recent visit (as per Atty. Glo) indicated that it was fixed. With regards to the above – if its true – I’m glad it was found before the opening of the hospital. In my personal opinion, I would rather have all the problems be found now – and subsequently fixed right away – properly – before public use.

    Posted by Ivie Dulimaman Coryaen | March 7, 2013, 12:31 am
    • I agree Ivie. Ecoli is not something that the Governor placed in there. That is why the water was tested for safety purposes.

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 7, 2013, 9:52 am
      • MY REPLY TO RINGNOSTER posting of Mar. 7, 21013:..

        Sir, you seem to be knowledgeable as to what’s going on in and near the Provincial Hosp.

        I have questions to ask of you… where did they get the water from… source??? Obtained by ” Sterile Technic???”
        Who did the TESTING???

        Awaiting for your answer, Sir.

        Dr. Tuason.

        Posted by ' | March 8, 2013, 8:39 am
        • I don’t know who tested but basing on the allegations above, somebody tested it. . How dd they know that there is ecoli f it was not tested. Do you know?

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 8, 2013, 10:17 am
        • TO RINGNOSTER:…

          SIR, In case you’re not aware, i’M AN M.D. I’M VERY MUCH CONCERNED AS TO THE SOURCE OF THE
          COLIFORM BACTERIA IDENTIFIED.

          THESE KIND OF BACTERIA PRESENT IN THE WATER OF THE HOSPITAL IS VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATION.

          I PRVIOUSLY ASKED YOU THESE QUESTIONS …

          1. WHERE DID THEY OBTAIN THE WATER TESTED?

          2. WAS THE MANNER OF OBTAINING THE WATER TESTED DONE BY “STERILE TECNIQUE?”

          3. FINALLY, WHO DID THE TESTING>>>identifying the ‘BACTERIA’.

          Going back to your previous answers….

          1. Somebody tested it…YOU DON’T KNOW WHO DID THE TESTING., YOU SAID ….iTS “HEAR-SAY” PURE “GOSSIP”.

          RINGNOSTER: … I know you’re an Abrenian, but let us not feed ‘false’ info to our “AGTUTUBO” younger members of our people. ( future leaders OF THE PROVINCE) ) they also read positings in the A.com Website.

          SIR, YOU MAY WISH TO MAKE CHANGES IN YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWERS… TO MAKE IT MORE CREDIBLE!!!

          DR. LEO

          Posted by ' | March 8, 2013, 7:33 pm
    • thats true! di nargaay ket kalkalpas na laeng so nga saan pay nga natangkenan dagitay semento nga naikabil and that night it rained hard so what do you expect? nargaay but it was fixed now….

      Posted by LiMo | March 10, 2013, 9:46 am
      • Dr. Tuazon, how old are you? If you don’t mind because it looks like you have a memory lapse. I did’t say that the Ecoli issue is a hearsay. I said, I don’t know who tested the water and asked you the same question if you know. Go back and read the thread before saying that I am feeding false to the youth. So what if you are an MD, if you don’t even remember what is being said, you are nothing. Leave the rest to the youth!

        Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 4:11 pm
        • Ringnoster sorry to say that you don’t know of what you are talking about. E coli is present when there is human excreta in the water and mind you that e coli could really be present in water but in certain limits for whatever purpose it is intended for. But I am not defending the hospital.
          This news about the e coli present in the water supply in the new hospital only shows the poor planning of the hospital. I don’t think that a sanitary engineer was consulted regarding water system and sewerage of the hosp8tal. If they could have tought of placing the new hospital nearer the center of town, water supply could have not been a problem because they could have just tapped into the bangued water district. The bangued water district has its water anakyzed monthly for bacterial analysis. That is the procedure especially if the water is for drinking purposes.
          If sa gov takit says that the hospitals water filter is state of the art, why is e coli present in the water supply? This only means something wrong with the state of the art thing that takit is bragging about.
          But for impartialities sake, there are several factors that affect the analysis of water
          . 1. The manner of collection. Was the colection done in an aseptic manner.? Was the colection bottle sterile?
          2. The transport of the water sample. Was it submitted in time? Was it sealed properly?
          3 who did the analysis? Was it an accredited water laboratory? Bangued water district has its water analysed at the ilocos training and medical center.
          As I said, planning is key to anything to be successful. We need experts here not amateurs. We need hospital experts not mere contractors.

          Posted by mario bang | March 10, 2013, 6:21 pm
        • TO RINGNOSTER posting of Mar. 1):…

          SIR, I’m as as young as your parents and my mental capacity is fully intact. The reason I mentioned my profession as an MD is that it makes me familiar on COLIFORM BACTRIAL INFECTION…

          The presence of E. COLI in a drinking water supply of a Hospital or community…. as physician, I’ m very concerned… it make it a serious a ALLEGATION .

          THe fact that the E. COli bacteria was discovered in the Water supply of the Hospital.

          >>>> the Abra Provincial Hospital (APH) a project of Gov. Takit Bersamin.

          If the APH is a project of the “OPPOSITION” of Gov. Takit… I would have suggested the same…. that is…

          1. Find the source of E. COLI.
          2. Technic (sterile) of obtaining sample of water.
          3. Testting done by professionals (as sugggested By Ms. Carmelita Omli).

          Dr. Leo

          Posted by ' | March 10, 2013, 7:38 pm
      • It was substandard. The concrete was already dry and painted that time. The cribwall, so they say, that collapsed was not steel reinforced. And yeah its NOT yet fixed as of today, the cribwall and that portion of the hospital that was damaged.

        Posted by justpassingby | March 21, 2013, 7:08 am
  3. That is very true kaprobinsya-an nga taga Abra. April to manen kanu ti soft opening if, a BIG IF, everything works out ok. Ka probinsya an nga taga Abra, adu nga project ni takeIT puruganansya bulsaAmin nga puros palpak. Ayanna diay 700mil nga utang ti probinsya? Totoy Bibo aka TB….

    Posted by Anonymous | March 7, 2013, 4:13 am
    • Mario Bang and Dr. Tuazon, why are you explaining to me about Ecoli? . I am not questioning it. I do understand what s Ecoli. My argument, is I did not say that the issue is a HEARSAY. Dr. tuazon, you are putting words in my mouth and you are trying to get away from it by trying to explain ecoli. I know what is ECOLI. You and Mario Bang don’t need to explain it to me. You were asking me who tested it and my answer was NO.

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 8:51 pm
      • Ringnoster by the way you talk you are really in the circle of takit. What we are looking for here is where the information and where the test was done. You may know what e coli is but do you know the implications of e coli being present in your drinking water? Your governor takit was bragging abiut the”state of he art” filter that he installed at the new hospital, why the e coli.? Just a simple refilling station is negative for e coli, why this very expensive filter yeilded e cili? That is the question here ringnoster. You are blinded by your loyalty to takit.
        Dr tuason is right in asking you about the report because by the way you talk you know the ins and outs of the provincial government. But it seems that you are just a mere fanatic fan of eustakaw puruganansya bulsamin.
        You are challenging miss omli, but who among the two of you has reason? Ms omli has more grit than you. Ms omli is objective but you are here only to act as the attorney of takit. Sorry to say this but you are the tuta of takit.
        So you know about e coli? Then why not ask your boss takit where it came from. Are you not concerned? Anyway I think not, you are just defending takit.

        Posted by mario bang | March 11, 2013, 3:14 am
      • Yeah, why are you explaining e-coli to ringnoster while you’re only asking and he only answered you “NO” and now you’re having your sermons. I am reading everything..

        Posted by Concern | April 24, 2014, 7:26 am
    • sige tira u latta ta panangperdi yo ken gov takit aglalo ta panagpanpanagan yo! di yo la ammo nga dagita patpatangen yo ket isu’t pakaabakan yo apo luna! nasayaat ta adda project na ngem tay pulos nga awan project na nga kasla kanyayo

      Posted by hansbuck | March 26, 2013, 2:57 pm
  4. A 200M project damaged by the rain? Suppose there will be a strong typhoon will the hospital withstand it? How about an earthquake of strong magnitude? Suppose a grenade is thrown,..

    Can the hospital be of viewed by an individual(or group)? Please reply, I hope to see it for myself and ask some of my engineer friends their personal opinion. Can it be photograped too?

    Posted by Abbat Iddot | March 7, 2013, 4:22 am
  5. KABABAYANS:…

    In the Article posted in the A.com Website on Mar.6, 2013, there are three separate issues to be discussed,
    they are….

    1. BACTERA E-COLI present in the water supply to the New Hospital.

    2. The Incumbent Adm. of Gov. Takit is frantically working to finish the Hospital to make it ready, to open to the public before the up-coming ELECTION.

    3. THE ACCOUNTING DEPT. OF THE ADM. OF GOV. TAKIT MUST REVIEW ITS RECORDS TO FIND OUT IF THERE ARE ANOMALIES IN THE “ARITHMETIC” ON THE TOTAL COST ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW HOSPITAL WHICH ABRENIANS HERE (IN THE PHIL.) AND OVER-SEAS CLAIMED TO HAVE APPROACHED 200 MIL. PLUS.

    To be continued::… Next.. Dr. Leo will make comment of No. 1.

    Posted by ' | March 7, 2013, 5:07 am
    • CONTINUM:…

      This is Dr. Leo comment on No. 1 (above).

      Few questions to the Engineer or Architect of the NEW HOSPITAL….

      1. Sirs, why did you chose ABRA RIVER (directly) as source of water supply to the NEW HOSPITAL?

      2. Is there any VALID reason why the water could not have come from the same source as the Bangued water come from. If the Bangued Water is safe for the entire population of the municipality of Bangued, it should also be safe for the Hospital.

      3. Awaiting for the answers before I continue my comment.

      Posted by ' | March 7, 2013, 8:01 am
  6. Inspection must be done by experts not amateurs. I agree with everyone….safety precautions before occupancy.

    Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 7, 2013, 5:49 am
  7. baka dayjay danum nga aggapu ti abra river ti adda e.coii na

    Posted by ferdinand baklaka | March 7, 2013, 6:22 am
  8. Please OPEN another THREAD about the Langiden issue tapno ma-concentrate tayo ti issue about the APH. Just a gentle request gagayyem.

    Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 7, 2013, 6:20 pm
  9. 6 blunders why eustakaw puroganansya bulsamin will lose in this upcoming election:

    1. Madam X
    2. APH Ghostpital
    3. Abreda este Abreco
    4. 700 plus million nga utang
    5. Awan leadership na
    6. Awan organization na

    Show me the money and i will follow the money trail. LOL!

    Posted by TB alias Totoy Bibo | March 8, 2013, 6:17 am
    • MY REPLY TO TB ALIAS TOTOY BIBO posting on Mar 8, 2013:….

      Sir, if you can subtantiate your allegations with facts not by
      ” HEAR-SAY” or mere “GOSSIP” against GOv. Takit., then you have grounds to remove him from office .

      Under our Constitution, he (Gov. Takit) may be removed by voting him out… Let the next person you voted shall be a lot better person…. to your satisfaction !!!

      TB ALIAS, pLease show us the “MONEY TRAIL”. Again your statements must not be “HEAR-SAY”. but based on facts.

      Posted by ' | March 8, 2013, 7:59 am
      • Check mo diay plunder case na idiay ombudsman supported by COA annual reports. As a concerned citizen, you can check this yourself. Adda omb case number nan, which means there is a probable cause already. The ombudsman are compiling all the evidence. The order of the counter-affidavit is soon to be served. Got it, takeIT.

        Posted by TB alias Totoy Bibo | March 8, 2013, 2:26 pm
        • I have requested from the Ombudsman Office copies of all cases pending against past, & present political leaders of our province. I am curious and it’s about time the people of Abra must know. Should we expose the cases before the election so we can have a dialogue?

          Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 5:45 am
        • Why not Madame C as long as you are not violating any of our existing laws and if our very supportive Site management will concur it. The public truly deserves to know anything and everything that affects their life and the future of their loved ones regardless of what kind of local government officials we presently have. They owe you one if you are the one that could seek and speak the truth that will certainly redefine their future especially if you do it without prejudice or hidden personal interest which I doubt you have. Therefore, we expect you not to expose only those pending corruption cases in the provincial level but also to the municipal down to the barangay level regardless of their political affiliation party or social standings in the province.
          Madame C, thank you very much for your unending unconditional cares or concerns which the under-privileged constituents will never forget your name if you could also convince the corruption court/s to expedite the prosecution of these leeches and crocodiles in our province. Too bad that you withdrew you candidacy otherwise we should not have been suffering like this.
          MABUHAY KA…!!!

          Posted by Sultan Kilang | March 9, 2013, 12:00 pm
        • They were hesitant to give me the cases, but I told them it is a “public knowledge” and as a concerned citizen or NGO, I could request to look at the case. So, they made me fill out a paper and I am waiting for their call.

          Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 1:28 pm
        • I am very impressed with your eagerness to free the majority Abrenians from their ignorance with what really causing the unending poverty in our midst despite government funds and local/foreign assistance/aids that constantly flooding in our beloved province. Please be more bold and fearless with your noble intention for it will surely empower us igniting our dormant aspirations in reshaping the future of our present and future generations. We want to remember you as one of the catalysts of change we had been dying and waiting to happen. Hopefully, with your invaluable contribution and participation this change will start right away after 2016 Election.
          Thank you very much Madame Carmelita Omli yTagorda ….and may the good Lord showers more His blessings to your loved ones and family.

          Posted by datu makarimbang | March 9, 2013, 6:44 pm
    • Hahahahahaha! Uray anya kunkunayo kada araramiden yo, saan yo nga maabak ni Takit. Apal ken sakit ti nakem daytan. Pooot kunak laengen no mangabak kayo. Puera patayan ken switik la!!!!! Takiak sapin ko sak sepsepan no maabak yo ni Takit basta nalinteg nga eleksiyon.

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 8, 2013, 10:23 am
      • Ti madi kaniayo apo…awan ti al-alaek ti uray sino nga politiko tayo. No adda agibaga ti saan nga nasayaat ti poltiko tayon ket ibagayo “apal” ? Sakit ti nakem, wen ngata ta ti umili ket imbutos da ti maysa nga kandidato nga mangpasayaat koma ti probinsiya wenno ili tayoken tumulong ti tattao, ngem saan met gayam ta kayat da met nga padasen met ti agpabaknang kasla kadagiti kallabes nga naibutos. Open your eyes….so obvious saan ketdin RINGNOSTER?

        Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 4:19 pm
        • Ket nakaadadu met ti makita na project ni Gov. Takit. Baan yo a a palpasen na sakayto agsarita. Manginagan ka man kadagita naglabas nga politiko no sino ti akaitured nga mangasimpa ti dalan ngaapan barbaryo? Deta hosptal, dikayomket yamanen ta inrugi na.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 3:50 pm
        • jak agnganga ringnoster ta awan masapul ko ken takit nga bos mu kas kunakun maabak isuna gapu ken madam x.

          Posted by eric shawn | March 12, 2013, 4:53 am
        • jak agnganga ringnoster ta awan masapul ko ken takit nga bos mu kas kunakun maabak isuna gapu ken madam x. jay amuyo makatulung ibotos u ni takit ni madam x umuna asitgan u

          Posted by eric shawn | March 12, 2013, 4:55 am
      • I agree!! Takit is UNBEATABLE!

        Posted by Jerry McGuire | March 9, 2013, 5:10 pm
        • Reply to Ringnoster of his/her post of Mar 10

          Basaem nga nalaing saka agsao. Practicing law without a license is not estaffa. I am still in business. My business was never ask to shut down. Just like I said, lisensyado nga abogado, adunto pay pagmistaken na siak to la ketdi nga paralegal laengen? Maysa pay, siak aya ti agsasao ti plunder case? Ni met Totoy Bibo? Nia ti ammok ket saanak met nga agsalsaludsod? Gapu kadagitoy mabasbasak nga sao sao yo amin ta lablab kay met amin, isu nga I became curious so, I went to Ombudsman Office to request for all the pending cases of Abra ta kayat ko maammuan ti details na dagitoy. Ay ket no pudno dagitoy nga claims ti kaadduan nga comentors ditoy abrenian.com. then I think I have the responsibility as an abrenian to expose the “truth”. Sao kay nga sao kunam ngem awan met solusyon yo kunam. No isu ti kayat mo then I will get you the solution you want. Ti laeng idawdawat ko kaniam, saan nga siak ti kalabanem ti sao ta adda-ak la ti pag tingingga-an. Narigat ti aghusgar nga kasla ta kunam no awan ebidensiyam. Narigat met ti agpaspasakit ti padam nga tao no awan met ar-aramidenna kaniam. Sapay koma ta malawlawagan dayta kapanunutam. Ditoy ket we are having a dialogue only. Pagsayaatan ti probinsya tayo kunam ti gun-gun-udem no kalkalabananennak pay kaniam nga trying to share my ideas and trying to build a concensus to find a solution? WHAT KIND OF ABRA DO YOU ENVISION TO ENSURE THAT OUR PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE? Continue to elect the corrupt? I thought we are all here to help each other to resolve the issues or how to resolve them… NOT FIGHT? Adu pakakitaan kunam? Let me get from Ex-Cong Cecy Luna ti accomplishments na then we will weigh who did better? The Calaba bridge is still strong and has not collapsed since the completion. Dayta ti question ti kaadduan no maawatam nga apay dayta APH ket saan pay nga nalukatan ket narpooge?. Diak pay nakita ti APH tayo, ngem basbasaek amin nga comments ditoy. Nakitak pay pictures na ket dinaydayaw ko pay ti kinapintas na. Nia serbi ti pintas no saan met nga mausar”Waste of time and money isn’t it? Daytoy ti puntos dagitoy kagurguram ti panagsasao na ditoy abrenian.com I am also getting the informations from the Dept. of Health what was given to APH…money to buy equipments or equipments? I am also checking the legalities of shutting down a hospital just for renovations? People are also concerned about the Land Bank loans for the hospital? Why is that? Was it necessary to obtain a loan from Landbank? I don’t understand how this work? Can you explain? Ti ammok ket no adda Budget ti maysa nga projecto, masapul nga maigasto ti dayta nga banag. Apay nga makautang pay laeng ti gobiyerno ti Abra no adda met gayam Budget nga nailaan ti dayta nga projecto? Maysa pay, sinno ti Madam X nga kunkunada? Bagam man ta you sound like you know everything about the Abra gov’t? I hear so many things but I am careful because they are all my friends. No masungbatam amin daytoy siguro sumardeng ti intriga kaniayon. Thank you.

          Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 10, 2013, 9:41 pm
    • Who is Madam X? What is her involvement? ABRECO? The only involvement I know is the 4.7M they claimed as paid by the gov’t. out of the “Calamity Fund”. This was paid by GM Seares a day before the 1M was paid again to NGCIP. I was shown a receipt bearing Abreco as the payor. So, if that’s the case, where did the withdrawal from the calamity fund went? I want to now please…..

      Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 5:51 am
      • Omli, agawaam ngarud a nga biroken dagita cases a kunkunam. Bareng a no maideliver mo tattan. Idi about Abreco ket awan met ti findings mo nga kunkunam. Naisilpo ti kuryenten, awan pay la findings mo. Adu ti makaammo diay Facebook ti kinabuakaw mon. Ditoy A,com ti dapat nga pagyanam ta agbibinnuakaw tayon.

        Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 10:11 pm
        • Binnuakaw? no dayta ti panangiagarupmo awan mabalin ko. Did you read my announcements re my “reserving the posting of my findings because of the postponement of the Generall Assembly”? I’ll keep you posted kunak. I also posted diay facebook ti Resolution No 13 per Syd Vasquez’ request wherein the Board of Directors had passed a Resolution in regards to the re-setting of the General Assembly? Just want to let you know the Inspection Report is not even completed. I was promised by CDA to pick-it up on the 26th of this month. This is important for me to render an honest report of my findings. You know what, you’re so ungrateful…but I think it’s human nature kung nasasapawan ng opinions….

          Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 11, 2013, 5:51 am
        • Ungateful for what Omli? You did not do me any favor. You can”t even deliver your findings. Anf, never that I was your friend. Thank you Lord ta saanak nga maysa kadagidiay naallilaw mo.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 11, 2013, 6:19 am
    • Mano pustam Totoy Bato? Mangabak ni Takit pwera switik ken pinnatay!

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 8:57 pm
      • maabak isuna ita makta nu kaya na agsolo. idi 2007 sympathy vote wd the backing of the general and his men. 2010 unopposed besaklat akas kunada meaning kulang sa experience pa. now ada kalaban na wd loyal mayors intact pa dn lets see if madam x cn do it alone

        Posted by eric shawn | March 11, 2013, 9:32 am
    • Mano pustam TotoyBibo? Mangabak ni Takit pwera switik ken pinnatay.

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 8:59 pm
      • Totoy Bibo alaem ta pusta na ta agguddua ta. Ngem sika ti agkolekta ta addak met ditoy America. Alaem na nagan ken address na ta ammota ti pagbirbirokanta kaniana.

        Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 10, 2013, 9:52 pm
        • Aglalo no sika ti kalaban na Omli. Ilupeklupek na ka. Hahaha! Sakbay nga pumusta ka brokem pay dagitay agbirbirok kenka ta kasom. No agawis ka ti umay makireunion, pangaasim ta saan nga bugos ta ited mo nga numero ti teleponom.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 10:00 pm
        • jak agnganga ringnoster ta awan masapul ko ken takit nga bos mu kas kunakun maabak isuna gapu ken madam x.

          Posted by eric shawn | March 12, 2013, 4:50 am
        • Ket anyanton no tuta nak ni Takit? Umapal ka? Do it! Pwera siodot giem!

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 12, 2013, 5:42 am
  10. Oyang Gorangdo aka Pedro Abreno, where are you? Apay nga nagbalin ka met nga umel ken tulpaken. And most importantly, you also became blind by the power of money and corrution from your takeit uroganansia bulsamin.

    Posted by TB alias Totoy Bibo | March 8, 2013, 6:24 am
    • When the pupils are ready, the teacher will come. Sorry, I learned early in life not to wrestle with pigs.

      Posted by pedro abreno | March 8, 2013, 6:48 pm
    • I found out “Pedro Abreno” is a woman…I thought they don’t like people hiding behind aliases. Whys is she hiding now? Just asking.

      Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 5:39 am
      • It is not in my character to cross swords with a lady in a manner of speaking. I can’t see how I became the topic here. And so I will oblige. You are wrong on three counts. First, you said you found out that Pedro Abreno is a woman. In all honesty, did you really find out or did you just swallow hook, line and sinker what the supporters of a political clan said? A person who lies to herself and believes her own lies becomes unable to recognize the truth. Second, you said that I don’t like people hiding behind aliases. If you have read my previous posts, I have said time and again that I respect the right of any person to use a pen name as well as the right of a person to his or her own opinion. We live in a democracy after all. Most of our national heroes used pen names. Across the world, people fighting for reforms use a “nom de guerre”. A lot of authors use pen names. There is nothing to hide. It is just the way other people do things. Third, you ask why I am hiding? I am not hiding. Why should I hide? I have never engaged in plunder and worst of all murder. I have never worked in government. I have no political agenda. I have no wish to enter politics, a profession that bears a strong resemblance to the oldest profession.
        I respect your right to use your real name and I respect your opinions and pronouncements. It matters little to me if I agree with what you say or not, I will always defend your right to say it. I respect your desire to run for public office. But I will not sit idly by and watch my liberty being invaded. It is one thing to feel that the way you do things is right, it is another to think yours is the only way. You posted a comment on what TB ALIAS TOTOY BIBO wrote. Pray tell me, do you honestly believe TB ALIAS TOTOY BIBO is a real name? You certainly don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that it is a pen name. If many people posting their comments are using pen names, am I not within my rights to do the same? Besides, if you ponder a little deeply, you will understand that PEDRO ABRENO stands for the simple and ordinary people of Abra. My only wish is to lighten the burdens of the majority of our people who are poor and to speak in their behalf, hoping against hope that one day they will be liberated from the prison walls of poverty. For those who have a difficult time understanding simple English, I will reiterate, my only allegiance is to upright, honest and competent governance. I will not vote for anyone in the gubernatorial, congressional and mayoral races. I will not choose from rotten apples. For me, there is no such a thing as a less rotten apple. Be that as it may, I fully respect the right of every Abreno to his or her own choice. The most important thing for me is that the will of the electorate be respected. I say no to vote-buying, the use of guns and goons, and murder. That is as plain and simple as I can get. I am not anybody’s fool. I can take care of my needs. I do not have and I will not suck up to any government official or politician to advance in life. It is not where we studied or what course we finished. It is not how wealthy we are. It is not how powerful we think we are. The bottom line is always, do we possess good judgment. For those who believe they have the power, let me remind you here and now, true power is not about control and intimidation. It is not about fooling others for they know no better. It is not self-deception. It is not reengineering so that the distasteful and sinful are buried deeply.
        “DESTROY A WHOLE GENERATION OF THOSE WHO HAVE KNOWN HOW TO WALK WITH HEADS ERECT IN GOD’S FREE AIR, AND THE NEXT GENERATION WILL RISE AGAINST THE OPPRESSORS AND RESTORE FREEDOM”

        Posted by pedro abreno | March 11, 2013, 7:23 pm
        • I apologize. What I was told wasn’t true afterall. I was surprised when I was told you was a woman…I was a fan! I admired your expressing your opinions about our Abra and if you remember, I was asking if I could “copy” your quotes in your previous postings. Again, I’m sorry.

          Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 13, 2013, 8:06 am
  11. patang ka yo patang awan met ti solusyon yo

    Posted by korikz | March 8, 2013, 10:49 am
    • Supay ti kunak. Kaslada kasiglatan. Shut up!

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 8, 2013, 11:54 am
      • Ringnoster, urayem inggana malpas election. Baka agbabawi ka ta imbagam. Gapuanan mangpaneknek nga inkalkag ni takeit puruganansia bulsamin.

        Posted by TB alias Totoy Bibo | March 8, 2013, 2:19 pm
        • Ket sino ti adadu naibulsa? Ni Valera nga wan pakakitaan wenno ni Takit nga adu ti nagapuanan na, isuna la nga saan mo makita Totoying ta bulsek ka. . Mano la tawen a ti serbsyo ni Takit, ,adu makitan. Daydi naglabas, 20 years awan la a pulos uray poltit no di puro babai.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 3:57 pm
        • TB dagita kabagyam ti bagaam. Kaano nga malpas diay nagdakkelan nga Hotel diay ngato ti bantay?

          Posted by ulaw2 | March 12, 2013, 12:29 pm
  12. Nia metten E-Coli ti pagpapatangan ditoy, tila ibagbagayo. Aturen yo bassit daguita naalikuteg nga kapanunutan yo, agparbeng kay bassit.

    Posted by Ulaw | March 9, 2013, 1:30 am
  13. THIS IS MY TAKE TO ALL OF THE ABOVE……Tapno maammuan ti husto, masapul nga alternate ti panangibutos tay ti kankandidato tapno makita ti husto nga aramid ti napalabas. Nia makunayo kakaddua?

    Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 9, 2013, 4:26 pm
  14. A New Thread on Facebook was created: KNOW YOUR CANDIDATES. Please check and participate. Alis users are welcome!

    Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 10, 2013, 12:29 am
    • Awan sa met mayat ti dayta grupom Omli. Awan met sumungsungbat kenka.

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 10:13 pm
      • It was created kadagidiay adda saludsod na. No awan di awan? Madi da ngamin kayat ti maki dialogue ti people like you behind the mask? Apay nga nakamaskara ka? Are you someone I know nga pretending to be my friend sometimes?

        Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 11, 2013, 6:01 am
        • Oh nooooo! Pleaseeeee! , I was never your friend and I don’t want to be your friend. Saan ko nga kaya ti mangdurdurog ti tattao a kasla dagidiay pampamayan dagidiay so called friends mo.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 11, 2013, 6:22 am
    • Kanino ka ba talaga Ateng? IDi ket barkadam ni Syd Vasquez, tatta ket Seares kan gapu ta inawagan da ka ti Auntie wenno Tiyang?

      Posted by Ringnoster | March 10, 2013, 10:16 pm
      • Dati met nga dayta ti awag da min kaniak maipud ken Ronald. Syd Vasquez is still my very good friend. Nia problemam?

        Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 11, 2013, 6:59 am
        • Awan problema Ateng. Balimbing ngamin ti labas mo. Namamangka sa maraming ilog. No sinno ti nalaing nga mangdurog kenka, su ti ayan mo.

          Posted by Ringnoster | March 11, 2013, 7:04 am
        • I was led to believe kaniayo amin nga kakaddua ni Gov Takit, ket saan ko nga kayat ti tuntunada yo nga agsasao, ken I found out anomaliies, isu nga I stayed out of the group so I can do my independent research ti husto tapno awan pakabasbasulak ti abrenians no ag sao-ak. Kayat yo ket sumursuratak kaniayo ngem adu met gayam ti aramid ti sursurutenyo nga maikaniwas ti panag-pobre ti Abra. Like this hospital, I did not even know the real score until I read all your postings here? I di not even know what Madam X they’re talking about until I read all your postings here. Diak ammo no sinno ti doble-kara kaniatayo ditoy nga comentors ta ti kunak ket nasayaat met da Nong Freddie, Ms. Glo, Ms. Mabel, Ms. Turner, Ms. Dion ken ni Nong ko diay groups ti FB kaniak? UNLESS; nga pakitang tao amin ti ipakpakitayo kaniak. I am a happy person, ken SPORT NAK NGA TAO. Sika ket awan makitak nga sportmanship mo ditoy. WE are in a dialogue not in a fiight for the betterment of ABRA. Look at Ivie Corya-en…she is so innocent like me about these allegations and she likes to know more about them kunana. Same like me. My role here is weighing the “lesser evil” among our candidates. AGPUNGER KA METTEN KET SAAN KAPAY NGA KANDIDATO?

          Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 11, 2013, 6:24 pm
      • ha ha ha Mano po Auntie!

        Posted by ulaw2 | March 12, 2013, 12:30 pm
  15. AGPAPAS KUNAK KOMA…SORRY.

    Posted by carmelita E. Omli | March 10, 2013, 12:32 am
  16. Makipinnustaak mangabak ni CECY LUNA FOR GOVERNOR no saan nga masungbatan dagita issues & concerns above by Totoy Bibo, Dr. Leo and Mario Bang.

    Posted by Carmelita E. Omli | March 11, 2013, 6:18 am
  17. kaloohan lang daytoy …..ibaga da lang a tapno ada rason a mai-delay da opening na kasi nga di pa pwede iOpen…kalokohan nga FOOLitico!…..

    Posted by qif | March 11, 2013, 9:37 am
  18. Apay saan nga agpudno dagiti investigative bodies no ania nga talaga ti status daytoy new hospital tayo? Idi pay laeng nga paim-imbestiga ni Gov. ngem apay saan pay nga nalpas inggana ita. Adda kadi nasakit nga kinapudno na nga agbuteng dagiti Abrenians no maammuan da? God saves us if all those building materials used were so inferior that can’t withstand against occurrence of any catastrophic phenomenon that endanger the lives of our patients, corrupt health officials, nurses, and other health workers. Sapay koma ta saan unay nga serious ti natakkuatan da nga narukop wenno narasi nga building materiales or not the WHOLE building is so fragile or dangerous for occupancy. Ngem apay inggana ita (manon nga tawen ti napalabas) agbuteng dan pay laeng nga mangpausar no saan nga grabe ti husto nga condition na? Madam O or others, can you dig out the truth that transpired from the alleged investigation ordered by the governor? What if one of the recommendations of the investigating body is “Remove and Replace”? Nanang ko po…!!!!

    Posted by kurarapnit | March 11, 2013, 1:00 pm
    • Tatang ko po..!! kasanon no the WHOLE BUILDING ti ma-“Remove and Replace”? Is this the main reason why the “Investigation Report” could not be released yet that causes forever postponement for the hospital to operate? If not, then enlighten us for we are not just waiting and waiting for nothing…..Kasanon no maabak ni Apo Takit nga awan pay closure na daytoy nga problema, sinno pay ngarud ti mangresolba? No mangabak, adda pay laeng taltalen tayo uray agpatinnga tayo laeng ti dila nga awan patingga na, ania ngarud piman ta awan sa met hus-husto nga justicial system ditoy Abra gapu ta awan sa met ti CARE da kadatayo diay ngato wenno dagiti trusted men ni Apo Presidente?

      Posted by sanggir | March 14, 2013, 3:23 pm
  19. Ado met ti agdodopodop nga buakaw ditoy abrenian.com kasla koma ni ms estafadora nga omli no ayan ti kwarta ada suna nga agpatpatingga .gur uray lang ti makwartaan na kadi deta…

    Kasla ecoli maka alis ado met ti perdi ti ulo na nga mamati kinyana….ha ha ha ha

    Posted by abreniantangtangag | March 11, 2013, 9:58 pm
  20. May I remind again our users to stay on topic. You all seems to be intelligent persons so I don’t need to explain the Rules of Engagement. Out of topic post will be deleted without warning from this point on.

    thanks

    Posted by SysOp | March 11, 2013, 10:33 pm
  21. TO ALL – This THREAD is now in my radar. Please enter your comments responsibly. FOCUS ON THE ISSUES. Do not try to win an argument by going into the CHARACTER of the user/poster, unless of course that is the issue presented under the article/material you are commenting on. Thanks!

    Posted by attyjulidizon | March 12, 2013, 1:32 pm
  22. Please be reminded of the RULES OF BASIC ENGAGEMENT…

    https://news.abrenian.com/2013/01/03/basic-rules-of-engagement-at-a-com/

    Posted by attyjulidizon | March 12, 2013, 1:58 pm
  23. Apology accepted, Madam Omli. After all, there is a common thread that binds us – our sincere desire to help our long-suffering people free themselves from the shackles of poverty. We just have different ways of doing things. After all is said and done what will define us is how we respect the opinions and observations of others, the way we express ourselves in an educated and civilized manner and the purity of our intentions.

    Posted by pedro abreno | March 13, 2013, 4:38 pm
  24. ti kunam darlo! Diay lagayan a ngata laeng

    Posted by mon tolco | March 15, 2013, 9:58 am
  25. saanen a makasubli ni takot jay america gapu ta mabalod isuna gapu ti kaado ti tinakaw na, uray kitaen u apaman a malpas ti election ket maabak isuna sangareprep ton ti rumwar nga testigo ken ebidensya maypanggep kadagiti tinakaw na, ado nga agpayso ti makita a project na ngem puro met palpak ta adado met tay tinakaw da ngem tay inggatang da ti usto koma a materiales na, ex. dagitay kalsada maminsan lang nga pagnaan ti truck marmarban, tay ospital nagtodo lang napigsa narban, dipay nakarkaro no gingined a napigsa baka magaburanen amin a nakaospital.

    Posted by agtangaw boy | March 16, 2013, 6:00 pm
  26. FOLKS;… just a reminder, the main topic is THE APH AND POSITIVE FOR E.COLI IN ITS THE WATER SUPPLY.

    Please stick to the “RULES OF ENGAGEMENTS”…. My fellow ABRENIANS are all intelligent to understand.

    Let me begin: It’s understood that water for the hospital originates ‘direct’ from the ABRA RIVER.

    Please allow me to trace the water source from the ABRA RIVER through “pipe-A” to a ” WATER HOLDING

    TANK” via “pipe -B ” to the HOSPITAL BUILDING.

    FRIENDS, any questions thus far?

    To be continued:..

    Posted by ' | March 17, 2013, 5:29 am
    • CONTINUM:..

      Let us trace the water source…..THE ABRA RIVER>>> pipe-A >>> PUMP STATION (sucks in water from the

      river and pushes the water into the HOLDING WATER TANK (a much higher structure than the hospital

      building to allow water to flow by gravity )>>> pipe-B >>> to the HOSPITAL BUILDING.

      >>>BREACH in the continuity of water flow…. at points PIPE ‘A’ , ‘B’ AND ‘C’ where ‘a’ faucet is

      installed for the purpose of getting water sample for testing!!! Inside the building at point ‘C’, WATER

      COULD BE TESTED BEFORE THE PUBLIC/ PATIENT CONSUMES IT..

      THERE MY FRIENDS, you have a choice where the testing can be done….at what ‘point’ do you want the water

      tested….. this is very important>>> i’ll tell you why.

      To be continued:..

      Dr. Leo

      Posted by ' | March 17, 2013, 1:45 pm
  27. eColi in the APH water system? So what else is new? Test the town water system and I will guarantee it, it will test positive as well! It is just a matter of increasing the dose of chlorine mixed in with the APH water filtration system and the problem is solved! The amount of ecoli present in the water system regardless of it’s source in Abra is not generally harmful to those who are used to it. Most people who have been away and living in the US will be most affected by it because their digestive system is not used to the amount of eColi their bodies can tolerate – thus you get LBM if you drink water drawn from the tap! You folks are making a big deal out of nothing! eColi is not generally harmful but will cause some discomfort to those who are not used to it! This “problem” should not keep the new hospital from opening on time as planned!

    Posted by INSTI | March 18, 2013, 2:41 am
    • TO INSTI :…

      It’s been a long time since I heard of your comments. Where have you been? Hibernating? Or are you

      searching for a retirement home or place way in the mountains . perhaps at a place called “Masissiat”
      close to the Abra-Kalinga Highway. A nice place to retire, I thought so when I was young.

      To be continued: ..

      Dr. Leo

      Posted by ' | March 18, 2013, 4:47 am
  28. CQB, apay sika ti magasangan? nangan kat sili?

    Posted by Bodong | March 19, 2013, 6:02 am

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